OMGWTFBBQ, another Concept Pitch!: Naruto-Sensei

This forum is for picking apart tricky issues facing any authors in the community. Word choice, action scenes, dialoguing, or plot development. If something isn't working for you, put it up here and see what your fellow community members can make of it. Try to keep examples short and to the point as much as possible.

OMGWTFBBQ, another Concept Pitch!: Naruto-Sensei

Unread postby Nasdaq » December 18th, 2009, 4:11 pm

I really need to stop doing thus, but given I have literally EIGHT fics in the planning stage, four of which have been shelved until later and four of which are duking it out in my head to see which gets written first, I can't help it! I just love the ideas too much! This idea came randomly to me, and I developed it with a friend of mine. I haven't decided if I write this first, or Brother's Uzumaki, but here is the first intro hook.
Spoiler: show
The office of the hokage was uncharacteristically quiet for this time of day. Usually it would be a hub of activity, center of all the day-to-day business that went into running the Village Hidden in the Leaves. It was a strange thing to watch, quiet entertaining in a way. The hokage would sit in his seat at the oaken desk that had been passed down from generation to generation of hokage. He would sit in an almost peculiar tranquility as the world rushed around him. The duties of the hokage would be fulfilled here, from paperwork to reports to the receiving of diplomatic envoys. He was not particularly fond of the latter, nor the former, but he did it all without complaint. The room would fill and empty over and over, from assistants and specialists, to young genin teams with their sensei’s reporting in for missions or other such duties. It was a storm of activity, and sitting at its center would be him.

He was the youngest of all the hokage, the Godaime who had shown the treachery of not only the previous hokage but of his own clan at the same time. His skill was unparalleled, his loyalty was unquestioned, and his love for his village was unending. So much so that he had put his own father, the head of a conspiracy to perform a coup d'etat, to the sword. Possessing a love of peace and a strong sense of duty, he had sat as the hokage for five years, since he was only thirteen years old, and since the time he had revealed the dire plot. When he revealed the plot of the former hokage to the village he had done so not out of his own desire for power, but because he was, over everything, loyal to his village first, hokage second, and clan third.

And so here he sat, the Fifth Hokage of the Village Hidden in the Leaves, head of the Uchiha clan, and secret bearer of the Mangekyou Sharingan. Here sat Itachi Uchiha, Godaime.

He had turned his chair around, staring out over the village with the cold face that had often deceived people. Only a select few people saw the true Itachi, and those that did could not help but love him. One of those people was standing next to him, someone who had served over him and now under him. Kakashi Hatake had that strange history, and was one of the few people that Itachi called sempai due to their time shared in the ANBU Black Ops. Itachi had grown to trust Kakashi, and it was not uncommon for the hokage to consult him on various matters, or simply talk as normal people did. That was a rare commodity for Itachi, and he valued it greatly.

Right now, however, they were talking about something far different. They were speaking of a newly promoted jounin who had just been given the authority to become the sensei of a three-person genin team as the coming class came to an end. Both Itachi and Kakashi were very familiar with the young man, both personally and of his many exploits in the various border skirmishes with Iwagakure that still sprung up every so often. For Itachi, it was particularly personal; the man was his former teammate, and another of the few people he truly trusted.

“I wonder, sometimes, what might have happened had the attack not come when it had.” Kakashi said. He was leaning back against the wall to the left of the hokage, staring out of the window as well, watching as the sun began to set over the village. “You might not have had your position, Itachi-san.”

The hokage smiled at the comment. Kakashi was one of the few people who spoke so freely around him, and it was quite refreshing, “Of course, Kakashi-sempai. He was an amazing man. The Hiraishin won us that war. Had It not come when it had, I have no doubt he would have led the village to peace.”

Kakashi simply nodded as he remembered his old sensei. Minato’s legendary Flying Thunder God Technique, the thing that had earned him the name of Konoha’s Yellow Flash, had decimated entire armies during the Third Great Shinobi World War. But the Kyuubi attack had brought an end to that, when Minato sacrificed his life to save the village.

“I hear that he is trying to learn it.” Itachi said suddenly. He stood up and cross his arms behind him, “Do you think he can, Kakashi-sempai?”

“He is his father’s son.” Kakashi replied quickly, smiling beneath his mask. “If anyone could, it would be him.”

“Yes. You know there was a fit when I granted his request to train a genin team.”

“You know there would be, Itachi-san.”

“Of course.”

Itachi paused a moment, soaking in the beauty of the village at sunset for a moment before he spoke again, “The team assignments are on the table behind you. Take a look at them would you?”

“You didn’t stick me with group, did you?” Kakashi said with a frown. Itachi just chuckled.

“I thought you might be curious about his team, actually.” The hokage said, smirking as he did. The expression only made Kakashi frown even more. When Itachi found something amusing it usually caused anything but that in most other people. As the white-haired jounin made his way over to the table he began to wonder what the hokage was up to. His one eye opened wide in surprise as he saw the assignments. Most of them were fairly straight forward, and he noticed quite a few of the clan names in the list. But it was not until he got down to the seventh team that he was truly surprised.

The team was composed of three clan children, something that was a small bit surprising in itself. Shikamaru Nara, next in the long-line of Nara clan shadow users, and the heir to the Hyuuga clan, a girl by the name of Hinata. The scores on both weren’t particularly impressive. But, the last member of the team was what surprised him. He was the prime rookie of this class, having topped his class in all areas. He was also the hokage’s younger brother.

“Team 7.” Kakashi began, the soft smile never leaving Itachi’s face, “Shikamaru Nara, Hinata Hyuuga, Sasuke Uchiha.”

He paused and looked up, chuckling once before he finished, “Jounin Sensei will be Naruto Namikaze.”
The general plot is that Naruto was born much earlier in this timeline, as in during the Third Great Shinobi War Early. The Kyuubi also ATTACKED much earlier, but after Naruto was born. He was three when the Kyuubi was sealed into him. His mother is stated to have died during childbirth, but because it happened earlier and before Minato was hokage, Naruto is known as his son in this as well. However, during this Kyuubi attack Sarutobi was gravely wounded and a put into a coma, and a new hokage was needed. Minato had never been named as the Fourth, and due political wrangling it was none other then Danzou who took control instead. Kakashi, barely an adult himself, ended up becoming a protector and big brother figure to Naruto. He'd known him beforehand, after all.

Naruto ends up in Itachi's class, and ends up being placed on his team as well. This also is a great effect in shaping the future. When Itachi is ordered to spy on the Uchiha, and later ordered to execute them all due to the coup d'etat plans, he instead ends up going public with all this, including evidence of it all, and ends up killing the ring leaders of the attempt, including his own father, as well as causing Danzou to flee in exile. Although he never intended it, he is later voted and named the Fifth Hokage, which, given his love of his village, he accepts.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Naruto is a Specialist Jounin who has been mostly fighting on the borders. Because Minato died earlier (but also discovered his Flying Thunder God Technique slightly earlier) the war was more or less over for Iwagakure and ther rest, but no concrete peace was ever reached due to Danzou's warmongering ways. So, a constant almost cold war began, with small hot spots. Naruto made a name for himself here, but always wanted to follow in his father's footsteps. Eventually, he returns and earns his position as a Jounin. He is roughly 16-17 years old during this, and well... I think you can extrapolate from there.

I have some general plot points worked out, including an amusing bit where he'll have a short relationship with none other then Anko, Hinata has a 'hot for teacher' crush on him, and other fun events that will obviously change due to the massive divergance.

This story also inspired another I plan to work on some time, in which Naruto is the holder of a Nine-Tailed Serpent instead of a Fox, and taken under the wing of Orochimaru, the Fourth Hokage, and his own apprentice Anko. In this story, Orochimaru never became an experimenting and immortality obsessed not job, because he never got the speech from Sarutobi and some other things. Still creepy, still a dick, but not as insane or evil. That's one of the other story ideas in my head.

Basically, it's this story, Brother's Uzumaki, the Orochimaru-as-hokage (Called Hydra, likely) one, and another called The Last Hyuuga that mixes up clans, genders, and the like. (Sasuke Hyuuga, Shikaru Nara and Inokoru Yamanaka [genderflips], and some other fun stuff, more or less.)

What I might do is write a hook for all four and then set up a poll to see which one people like. I post these here because people's opinions and questions really help me build up the story in my head.
"Sasuke was not really happy with his team. The shy Hyuuga, and the laziest person he'd ever known where not people he'd have picked. And he never expected how a blue-eyed, blond-haired, and newly minted jounin would transform them all into a true team." - Naruto-sensei, currently in Arc 2: The Chuunin Exams
User avatar
Nasdaq
 
Posts: 388
Joined: January 20th, 2011, 5:14 pm
AOL: VindicatedHunter

Re: OMGWTFBBQ, another Concept Pitch!: Naruto-Sensei

Unread postby Tempest Kitsune » December 18th, 2009, 4:17 pm

You seem to have an absurd talent for creating these amazing fic ideas, don't you?
"Doesn't matter what the press says. Doesn't matter what the politicians or the mobs say. Doesn't matter if the whole country decides that something wrong is something right. This nation was founded on one principle above all else: the requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world — "No, you move."
— Captain America

Naruto RP Character - Takuma Itsuki, Special Jounin
User avatar
Tempest Kitsune
 
Posts: 4684
Joined: January 20th, 2011, 5:14 pm

Re: OMGWTFBBQ, another Concept Pitch!: Naruto-Sensei

Unread postby Nasdaq » December 18th, 2009, 4:26 pm

Thanks, that's a big compliment. And yeah, I do. Not just fanfics, but inventing stories and worlds is my shtick, it's why I'm working on actually being a writer. I also tend to work well in worlds like Naruto, or other fantasy things, because it allows me to really twist things in unique ways.

Give me a n idea, and I can run with it. I work well taking small ideas and just building them up into full on plots. Like the fact that Naruto's seal is called an Eight Trigrams Sealing Style seal. Hakke. As in, the same Eight Trigrams that the Hyuuga use. Not likely related in canon but it gives so much potential for twisting that around in stories. That little blurb alone could be an entire story plot.
"Sasuke was not really happy with his team. The shy Hyuuga, and the laziest person he'd ever known where not people he'd have picked. And he never expected how a blue-eyed, blond-haired, and newly minted jounin would transform them all into a true team." - Naruto-sensei, currently in Arc 2: The Chuunin Exams
User avatar
Nasdaq
 
Posts: 388
Joined: January 20th, 2011, 5:14 pm
AOL: VindicatedHunter

Re: OMGWTFBBQ, another Concept Pitch!: Naruto-Sensei

Unread postby Darkandus » December 18th, 2009, 4:36 pm

Give me an idea, and I can run with it.
O.k. How about this.

During the time before the ninja villages were created the Uchiha never learned of the Mangekyo Sharingan and were almost destroyed, the survivors were found by the Hyuuga and Sealed as Branch Family members. Eventually, potentially hundreds of years after the Uchiha were inslaved, instead of Konoha being founded by the Senju and Uchiha it was instead founded by the Senju and a much more powerful than Canon, Hyuuga Family.

Instead of a Branch house of Hyuugas the Branch family are all Uchiha which have been renamed as Hyuuga, their true history forgotten or activly stamped out.
Spoiler: show
Image
User avatar
Darkandus
 
Posts: 3003
Joined: January 20th, 2011, 5:14 pm

Re: OMGWTFBBQ, another Concept Pitch!: Naruto-Sensei

Unread postby Magnificate » December 18th, 2009, 4:44 pm

You seem to have an absurd talent for creating these amazing fic ideas, don't you?
True. Still, I would rather see one fanfic finished that five fanfics started. ;) Your Naruto: Shinseiki certainly deserves to be finished.
Hinata has a 'hot for teacher' crush on him
Why? OK, I know why, but isn't she more of a "Fan of Underdog" type?
Give me a n idea, and I can run with it.
How about Incomplete Uchiha Massacre? Maybe Itachi is stopped before he can finish his clan? Best and brightest, along with the most users of Sharingan, are dead but civilians and (an maybe low-end Uchiha ninjas?) remain. (Eventually other Uchihas return from their assigned missions?) The clan is broken but not destroyed. What if Itachi dies in the process? What if the world of planned coup gets to the general population? Just who would take the reign of the broken clan, young heir Sasuke? Or maybe if the Sharingan is thought to be lost maybe someone else will try to rebrand the Uchihas as a full fledged Fire Clan?
User avatar
Magnificate
 
Posts: 1239
Joined: January 20th, 2011, 5:14 pm

Re: OMGWTFBBQ, another Concept Pitch!: Naruto-Sensei

Unread postby Nasdaq » December 18th, 2009, 4:51 pm

Hmm, yeah, I could run with that. Big changes would require more effort, but Itachi could have killed off much of the Branch Family, which was going to try and kill the Main Household. Madara never would have his Moon-Eye Plan, likely. Sasuke consumed by hatred of his brother and hatred of the main family... could draw in another 'forbidden' element if Sasuke is born... and later manifests neither sharingan nor byakugan, but a sort of fusion of both, perhaps based on the eyes of the Elder Son of the Sage of Six Paths, which takes the form of more a spiral in the eye then the rinnegan rings.

Or, perhaps, Madara does live, and wants vengeance on the Hyuuga.

To the five started and one finished, I agree. But response for Shinseiki was rather abysmally low. Pack Light has been better, and I'm eleven chapters into that. I intend to follow that story at least until the end of the Hunt for Itachi arc before I put that story on hold, which will be about twenty to thirty more chapters, I suspect. Shinseiki has a problem, also, in that it's much harder to get people to enjoy it when there are literally no canon characters around, so I have to introduce a changed world, a new batch of characters, and make people enjoy it. It's far harder to write then other things, even harder then writing my original stuff I think, and while I enjoy it I've decided to hold off until I have more time. I also fear that it will rapidly become excessively AU as the manga continues, and I haven't pinned down a concrete divergence point just yet on it.

So we'll see.

As per Hot for Teacher, she already has a Fan of the Underdog as she saw him when he was younger and all. But the distance was greater, and with no one in their class to push her harder she becomes essentially the dead-last of the class. Naruto, though, believes in her and is incredibly nice, not like her other teachers at all, and is always smiling and all. So, she get's that sort of crush.

Partial clan massacres are actually a favorite topic of mine, I've seen it done a few times, but I really particularly like the idea where he kills all the ninja of the village but not the women and children. I incorporated a few of those elements into this story, and will in a few others as well, because much like Sasuke, I think Itachi is an under done character with some potential marred by faulty thinking and the fact that, well, he's dead.
"Sasuke was not really happy with his team. The shy Hyuuga, and the laziest person he'd ever known where not people he'd have picked. And he never expected how a blue-eyed, blond-haired, and newly minted jounin would transform them all into a true team." - Naruto-sensei, currently in Arc 2: The Chuunin Exams
User avatar
Nasdaq
 
Posts: 388
Joined: January 20th, 2011, 5:14 pm
AOL: VindicatedHunter

Re: OMGWTFBBQ, another Concept Pitch!: Naruto-Sensei

Unread postby spudman » December 18th, 2009, 5:19 pm

As far as Hinata's crush, the fact that a five year difference isn't much at all down the road...(seriously, I know couples that are 8-10 years apart, five is nothing big).

Naruto: Gah, when'd my former student get hot! Nooooo, bad thoughts! :duh *hitting self*

Not at the beginning of course, that would be very wrong.
User avatar
spudman
 
Posts: 1532
Joined: January 20th, 2011, 5:14 pm

Re: OMGWTFBBQ, another Concept Pitch!: Naruto-Sensei

Unread postby Nasdaq » December 18th, 2009, 5:44 pm

Roughly 4 years, actually, and yes, the plan IS to make them get together because I am a rabid shipper. However, he will have a few dates and whatnot, including one amusing short relationship with Anko which will end in a very amusing loss of virginity and actually a very fun scene I wrote with my friend earlier. It'll set up the M rating on the story for sure.
"Sasuke was not really happy with his team. The shy Hyuuga, and the laziest person he'd ever known where not people he'd have picked. And he never expected how a blue-eyed, blond-haired, and newly minted jounin would transform them all into a true team." - Naruto-sensei, currently in Arc 2: The Chuunin Exams
User avatar
Nasdaq
 
Posts: 388
Joined: January 20th, 2011, 5:14 pm
AOL: VindicatedHunter

Re: OMGWTFBBQ, another Concept Pitch!: Naruto-Sensei

Unread postby spudman » December 18th, 2009, 8:07 pm

I wonder how Sasuke has grown up under these circumstances, though. Sasuke loved his brother before the massacre but was also stuck in his shadow (which wouldn't be helped with Itachi being Hokage). He also was kind of obsessed to please his father. It makes me wonder if Sasuke has some resentment (concious or unconcious) towards Itachi. I could see it going either way as far as him betraying the village.

Is Mikoto still around?
User avatar
spudman
 
Posts: 1532
Joined: January 20th, 2011, 5:14 pm

Re: OMGWTFBBQ, another Concept Pitch!: Naruto-Sensei

Unread postby Nasdaq » December 18th, 2009, 8:33 pm

I haven't decided yet if she will be, OR if Sasuke will either idolize his brother and want to be Hokage some day, or have a subtle hate for him as well as Danzou. He was always obsessed with his father recognizing him. In a way, he's similar to Hinata, except instead of lacking talent and wanting to prove himself, he wants to catch up and make his father see him as a separate thing from his brother.

It could go either way, and I need to decide one way or the other. I'm simply not sure yet.

By the by, for curious people, the other teams are Team 8: Kiba Inuzuka, Ino Yamanaka, and Sai Egaku and Team 10: Chouji Akamichi, Shino Aburame, and Sakura Haruno.

Sai is there because, while Danzou was still hokage, he planted Sai to watch Sasuke shortly before Itachi acted. However, when Danzou was exiled, Root was disbanded, and Sai was suddenly stuck, more or less. The last name was given for official documentation, and is a cover, just like Sai.

I have not decided on how to set up teachers. I'm thinking of having Kakashi actually get a team and fail them. The set up was intended to be one Ninjutsu specialized student and one Taijutsu specialized student in each team, with the third member having some other trait which made them notable. In this case, Hinata provides Taijutsu and Shikamaru provides Ninjutsu, while Sasuke is a sort of wild-card heavy guy. TEam 8 has Kiba on Taijutsu and Sai on Ninjutsu, with Ino providing her clan techniques to it. Chouji is Taijutsu on Team 10, Shino is Ninjutsu, and Sakura provides an academic side to things.
"Sasuke was not really happy with his team. The shy Hyuuga, and the laziest person he'd ever known where not people he'd have picked. And he never expected how a blue-eyed, blond-haired, and newly minted jounin would transform them all into a true team." - Naruto-sensei, currently in Arc 2: The Chuunin Exams
User avatar
Nasdaq
 
Posts: 388
Joined: January 20th, 2011, 5:14 pm
AOL: VindicatedHunter

Re: OMGWTFBBQ, another Concept Pitch!: Naruto-Sensei

Unread postby Greybane » December 19th, 2009, 2:58 am

As far as Hinata's crush, the fact that a five year difference isn't much at all down the road...(seriously, I know couples that are 8-10 years apart, five is nothing big).

Naruto: Gah, when'd my former student get hot! Nooooo, bad thoughts! :duh *hitting self*

Not at the beginning of course, that would be very wrong.
My parents are over 12 years apart, and broke the age rule when they married.
Odd that. It actually worked.
User avatar
Greybane
 
Posts: 1114
Joined: January 20th, 2011, 5:14 pm

Re: OMGWTFBBQ, another Concept Pitch!: Naruto-Sensei

Unread postby Tempest Kitsune » December 19th, 2009, 3:01 am

Hmmm, well once he hits 22/23 it should be alright, even factoring the "Rule of 7" in.
"Doesn't matter what the press says. Doesn't matter what the politicians or the mobs say. Doesn't matter if the whole country decides that something wrong is something right. This nation was founded on one principle above all else: the requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world — "No, you move."
— Captain America

Naruto RP Character - Takuma Itsuki, Special Jounin
User avatar
Tempest Kitsune
 
Posts: 4684
Joined: January 20th, 2011, 5:14 pm

Re: OMGWTFBBQ, another Concept Pitch!: Naruto-Sensei

Unread postby spudman » December 19th, 2009, 4:35 am

Meh, I think her being 15-16 and him being 19-20 wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility. It'd be rather sketchy (and probably illegal depending on the state you're in) in our society, I know, but probably not so much in the Narutoverse.

At the same time they'd likely get at least some more scrutiny than a same-age couple would I imagine, especially with them being teacher and student before.
User avatar
spudman
 
Posts: 1532
Joined: January 20th, 2011, 5:14 pm

Re: OMGWTFBBQ, another Concept Pitch!: Naruto-Sensei

Unread postby Nasdaq » December 19th, 2009, 1:34 pm

Well, it wouldn't manifest until a timeskip, and at that point he'd come back as around 18-19 and she'd be 15-16. Given they're both freaking ninja and legally adults via hitae-ite, doubt it would get much scrutiny other then the mild outrage that there may be of it still being teacher/student, as was stated.

Again, there will be moments where it's joked about, with other people realizing the crush/infatuation and saying 'well that could be dangerous...' and the like, and Hinata getting devastated at the thoughts of Naruto going on dates. But yeah, XD
"Sasuke was not really happy with his team. The shy Hyuuga, and the laziest person he'd ever known where not people he'd have picked. And he never expected how a blue-eyed, blond-haired, and newly minted jounin would transform them all into a true team." - Naruto-sensei, currently in Arc 2: The Chuunin Exams
User avatar
Nasdaq
 
Posts: 388
Joined: January 20th, 2011, 5:14 pm
AOL: VindicatedHunter

Re: OMGWTFBBQ, another Concept Pitch!: Naruto-Sensei

Unread postby Nasdaq » December 20th, 2009, 2:00 am

Spoiler: show
It was early morning, barely six AM. Sasuke was already getting dressed as the sun barely broke over the Uchiha compound. His room was spartan, by choice rather then by necessity. His various training aids littered it, scrolls stacked high on the shelves and desk. He was always studying, always training. It was why he rose so early, to get a few hours of practice in before he went off to the academy. Soon, he would be getting those early extra hours in before going off to meet with his new team. But he should have been doing that years before.

Often, Sasuke wondered why he tried anymore. He pushed himself to the limits, topped the class in every area, and was well ahead of his class. There was little doubt in his mind, nor in the minds of his mother or even his teachers, that he could have passed the genin examination far earlier then he’d been allowed. It should have been allowed, Sasuke felt. He deserved it for all the work he put in; he deserved to be recognized as a prodigy, just like his brother. But they never saw him, and he always lived in that shadow, despite everything.

So many times he’d felt so fed up that he wanted to just quit trying so hard, but he couldn’t. He tried to be lazy once, but found it boring. He tried to slack off, to just not study so hard, or not to do well, but it was impossible. When he was faced with a challenge he just launched himself at it. Sasuke supposed that was what they called natural talent. It was amusing really; the one thing he couldn’t do was fail. It was proof of his prodigy, and yet it was still less then his brother.

His hokage brother. Sasuke wondered if Tobirama Senju felt the same way under the shadow of his brother, Hashirama. That thought had gotten him through hard times before. The knowledge that a brother can rise to be great, even as great as his brother was. Tobirama had given organization to what his brother had made, he had refined it into something better. The Village Hidden in the Leaves was given true shape due to Tobirama, and that thought made Sasuke hope he could one day do the same. He was unable to fail, it seemed, meaning he had to. There was no other choice.

Of course, it was much harder when his brother kept holding him back. He knew he was, though he’d never admit it. Itachi was head of the Uchiha clan and the hokage, and his opinion carried more weight in the two sides of Sasuke’s life than any other. In the village and clan he was the supreme authority. Sasuke knew that Itachi did not want him to graduate early, and that confused the younger of the brothers. After all, hadn’t Itachi done just the same?

Sasuke sometimes thought it was because Itachi wanted to keep him back out of fear, but that was silly and the young Uchiha knew it. His brother loved him dearly, Sasuke knew. He’d asked once, in anger, why he had done what he had done; why had Itachi killed father and revealed the Uchiha’s plan? Itachi looked at Sasuke with an expression that the boy had almost never seen. It was one of sadness, one of suffering.

‘I seem very cold to you, don’t I, Sasuke?” he had said, looking off into the distance as he did. “But I love many things. I love my clan, and I love my mother. More than this, I love my village. But above all of that, there is one thing that I love even more, and one thing that I could not raise a hand against. There is one thing that I would do anything to protect.’

His brother had grown silent, eventually causing his younger brother to ask who or what this thing was. It was then that Sasuke had seen an expression from his brother that he had never seen before and never again. His eyes seemed so tormented, and something almost like anguish came over him. It would be some time before Sasuke realized that was exactly it. It had been a look of suffering due the question. It would take even longer for Sasuke to realize why.

Itachi had not answered the question with words, but eventually Sasuke realized he had answered it with that single expression. Itachi loved his little brother, and would do anything to protect him. Sometimes, though, Sasuke wished he wasn’t so protected.

Sasuke finished getting ready and sprinted out the door. His mother was still sleeping. She slept a bit later then she used to, and she went to bed a bit later too. She still smiled all the same, but sometimes it seemed little bit forced, around Itachi in particular. Those were a few of the changes that the young Uchiha had noticed in his mother ever since father had died. Or, rather, since his father was executed. He had been neither the first nor last of the Uchiha executed for treason, though he had been the head of it all. Sasuke wondered if his father would find that almost mildly insulting; despite his place in the treasonous plot and despite his relation to his own executioner, he was not given a special place at all. He was just another guilty man, killed like all the others.

Sasuke was fairly sure he hated his father. He loved him too, of course, because he was his father. Sasuke was fairly sure his brother was the same way, a strange combination of hate and love. Why did everyone think those were mutually exclusive? Love and hate were not opposites, despite what people sometimes said. They were just emotions, just feelings that one had. Related, to be sure, and one often made it harder for the other to exist, but they were not exclusive.

He knew this because he felt them both for his traitor of a father, a father whom never acknowledged him as his own person; a father whom could be as cold and harsh as Itachi, but without showing the hidden warmth that Sasuke’s brother could, a father who betrayed his own village, his own position of power, out of pure greed. But he was also a father who had raised Sasuke and, in a twisted way, pushed and believed in him. Even if he hadn’t, Sasuke knew he’d still love him. Father was not a cruel man, and he had provided well for his family. His greed was motivated partially for their sake; he wanted more for his family, even if he had been an idiot, traitorous fool in how he had gone about it.

Cold morning air bit at the young teen’s skin as he ran, not stopping to say anything to the few servants and early risers that he passed as he made his way through the compound and headed for one of the many Training Grounds nearby. The Uchiha lived on the outskirts of Konoha, which suited Sasuke just fine; he was fast enough to get into town when he needed, and close to many of the training fields too. Some in the clan resented being set farther out, but little complaint could be made. The clan’s lands were still primes real estate and they had not been punished for the treasonous acts of their leaders other then the loss of the members. That hadn’t even been all the conspirators, simply the largest of them. They were lucky the village had accepted this, and Itachi’s oath.

It was that reason that prevented most from complaining when the Military Police were disbanded. Some rumors spoke that the Hyuuga clan was petitioning to have their own force started in secret, a fact that made many Uchiha bristle but none would openly complain. Pride was a luxury that was ill afforded by the clan these days, even more so when their clan head also wore the wide-brimmed hat of the hokage.

Sasuke vaulted over the walls of the compound and took to the roofs. The few early risers from both in and outside of the compound never even batted an eyelash; though it might shock those in a normal town, here in one of the hidden shinobi villages it was as common to see as street vendors. Shinobi were practical people, as well. Those with no time to spend moving through crowds took to the roofs for speed, and shinobi almost universally loved speed. When one has the capability of going as fast as they could it was simple human nature to fall in love with it. Sasuke knew this to be true; he’d fallen in love with it too.

In fact, he found these morning trips across the rooftops and towards his favorite training ground to be one of the best parts of the day. Focusing on pushing himself faster and higher, he could block out the rest of life. No worries about his brother, or his progress, or academy scores, or his new team. He could worry about how much chakra he used in his pushes, and how much he used to soften his landing. He focused on gauging distances, or on avoiding pitfalls, water towers, and close lines. It was a simpler and easier thing, to focus only on the now instead of the past or the future. Sasuke had once wondered if maybe that was why many of the Uchiha ended up more cold after developing their sharingan; the ability to predict and plan so much easier left even more time in the day for worry and wonder.

But not right now. Right now there were no thoughts of his brother or father, and certainly no thoughts of the nature of love and hate. No mature musing or pondering that someone his age had no place at all pondering or musing about. Right now, there were just rooftops and clotheslines and the clashing feel of warm morning sun and cold morning air. And it was good.
I don't know why but I really like this, for some reason. I think it establishes a bit of the changes from canon, how Sasuke is, and also plays into his 'natural talent' sort of thing and... I don't know, I just like it a lot. He's a far more stable and adjusted person, despite the trauma, and I think he's a fun character to write, in this or any state, if you do him right.

I'm planning on four more segments to chapter one; one for each of the new team seven, with them waking up and their thoughts on things, one with Iruka and Naruto talking over breakfast (ramen, of course), and close with Itachi and Kakashi talking and introduce the first plot point as well, involving some disappearing Uchiha.
"Sasuke was not really happy with his team. The shy Hyuuga, and the laziest person he'd ever known where not people he'd have picked. And he never expected how a blue-eyed, blond-haired, and newly minted jounin would transform them all into a true team." - Naruto-sensei, currently in Arc 2: The Chuunin Exams
User avatar
Nasdaq
 
Posts: 388
Joined: January 20th, 2011, 5:14 pm
AOL: VindicatedHunter

Re: OMGWTFBBQ, another Concept Pitch!: Naruto-Sensei

Unread postby SirKaid » December 20th, 2009, 3:15 am

One thing I always find myself wondering about with any fic where there's more than just Madara, Itachi, and Sasuke left is what Orochimaru's going to do. On the one hand, if he wants a pair of Sharingan eyes it's beyond simple for a ninja of his caliber to just grab a pair. On the other, he's also extremely fond of grandstanding. After all, if he wasn't he would not have gone after Sasuke in the middle of his most important plot ever, he would have kidnapped him during the night and left the village with none the wiser.

Perhaps with a larger supply he would do kidnappings to do experiments on the Sharingan as opposed to just possessing an Uchiha. It's worth a ponder or two at the very least.
SirKaid
 
Posts: 305
Joined: January 20th, 2011, 5:14 pm

Re: OMGWTFBBQ, another Concept Pitch!: Naruto-Sensei

Unread postby QuoteMyFoot » December 20th, 2009, 11:31 am

I like this and at the same time I don't. I like the ideas and the writing (mostly, but I'll get to that), but something about it rubs me up the wrong way. I can't decide if this is because there's too much introspection and not enough things happening (which is just my personal preference) or because Sasuke seems a little... off? I think it's a bit of both. He strikes me as both too wordy and, at times, a little melodramatic.
Spoiler: show
Sasuke finished getting ready and sprinted out the door. His mother was still sleeping. She slept a bit later then she used to, and she went to bed a bit later too. She still smiled all the same, but sometimes it seemed little bit forced, around Itachi in particular. Those were a few of the changes that the young Uchiha had noticed in his mother ever since father had died. Or, rather, since his father was executed. He had been neither the first nor last of the Uchiha executed for treason, though he had been the head of it all. Sasuke wondered if his father would find that almost mildly insulting; despite his place in the treasonous plot and despite his relation to his own executioner, he was not given a special place at all. He was just another guilty man, killed like all the others.

Sasuke was fairly sure he hated his father. He loved him too, of course, because he was his father. Sasuke was fairly sure his brother was the same way, a strange combination of hate and love. Why did everyone think those were mutually exclusive? Love and hate were not opposites, despite what people sometimes said. They were just emotions, just feelings that one had. Related, to be sure, and one often made it harder for the other to exist, but they were not exclusive.

He knew this because he felt them both for his traitor of a father, a father whom never acknowledged him as his own person; a father whom could be as cold and harsh as Itachi, but without showing the hidden warmth that Sasuke’s brother could, a father who betrayed his own village, his own position of power, out of pure greed. But he was also a father who had raised Sasuke and, in a twisted way, pushed and believed in him. Even if he hadn’t, Sasuke knew he’d still love him. Father was not a cruel man, and he had provided well for his family. His greed was motivated partially for their sake; he wanted more for his family, even if he had been an idiot, traitorous fool in how he had gone about it.
This is three whole paragraphs (essentially) on Sasuke's feelings for his father. It feels a little forced in context - there's no reason why it should come up now - and Sasuke also seems a little bit... accepting? I think even with less trauma, and people to help him recover, Sasuke is the type of person who would rather bury or ignore his issues. I think there would be more confliction here; his father's betrayal of the village vs. Itachi's betrayal of the clan and their upbringing. There'd also be the tension between Itachi and their mother to consider. Err. Did I go overboard here?
Spoiler: show
‘I seem very cold to you, don’t I, Sasuke?” he had said, looking off into the distance as he did. “But I love many things. I love my clan, and I love my mother. More than this, I love my village. But above all of that, there is one thing that I love even more, and one thing that I could not raise a hand against. There is one thing that I would do anything to protect.’

His brother had grown silent, eventually causing his younger brother to ask who or what this thing was. It was then that Sasuke had seen an expression from his brother that he had never seen before and never again. His eyes seemed so tormented, and something almost like anguish came over him. It would be some time before Sasuke realized that was exactly it. It had been a look of suffering due the question. It would take even longer for Sasuke to realize why.
I thought this was an example of Sasuke bein a bit dramatic - Itachi seems a little off to me here, as well. He was always very cryptic, so I couldn't see him being this open with Sasuke. Well, anybody, really.

I'm really interested to see where this goes, though. Does Itachi still have his Mangekyo? If not, he might have more trouble against Orochimaru than in canon...
User avatar
QuoteMyFoot
 
Posts: 583
Joined: January 20th, 2011, 5:14 pm

Re: OMGWTFBBQ, another Concept Pitch!: Naruto-Sensei

Unread postby Nasdaq » December 20th, 2009, 12:22 pm

Itachi seems off for a very good reason: Naruto was his teammate, a fact which had subtle but lasting effects on him.

Excessive introspection is actually my weak point. I've been working on it, but I tend to write a ton of it. I've been training myself to add more physical action and the like, simply because. I've been doing some editing this morning and adding some more action, and more clear triggers as to WHY he is thinking about this. He did not run in to find his Dad murdered, either, which is another reason he's far less traumatized, which will be made clearer later on. He didn't have the 72 hours of mind-breaking to twist him into a hateful little prick either. Likewise, he has not yet activated his sharingan.

But, yeah, I dropped a hint of the tension between Itachi and his mother, and I plan to do a scene from her perspective at least once, thinking about her sons, and her late husband. She, being a ninja herself, has her own insight into things.

Yes, Itachi has his Mangekyou, and a mild spoiler from the hint I dropped, the disappearing Uchiha IS related to Orochimaru, as well as his new partner in Akatsuki,
Spoiler: show
Danzou
.

And Orochimaru is still in Akatsuki because he never found a reason to leave nor be expelled. His new accomplice, on the other hand, has his own reasons for wanting to get back at the village, and has inspired Orochimaru, to a degree.

Also, mild spoiler for a future chapter or bit:
Spoiler: show
Kakashi's mind was far less cluttered then most other, and he was not really one for excessive introspection; he was at peace with himself, in a way, and that made him far better adjusted then many lifelong shinobi. It also gave him a slightly keener insight into the minds of other shinobi, particularly ones which greatly reminded the jounin of himself. Itachi was one such ninja. And, having just come from a meeting with the young hokage, he found that he had a very clear image of what the man was planning.

"You really believe he's going to do it, don't you, Itachi..." he murmered to himself as he pushed off another building. He chuckled, "You gave him quite an arsenal; Nara genius, Hyuuga clarity, and Uchiha strength. You gave him influence in the future of three clans, including two of the oldest and most powerful, one of which is your own."

Kakashi smiled, "You're clever, Itachi. For your sake, and his, I hope you're right..."
"Sasuke was not really happy with his team. The shy Hyuuga, and the laziest person he'd ever known where not people he'd have picked. And he never expected how a blue-eyed, blond-haired, and newly minted jounin would transform them all into a true team." - Naruto-sensei, currently in Arc 2: The Chuunin Exams
User avatar
Nasdaq
 
Posts: 388
Joined: January 20th, 2011, 5:14 pm
AOL: VindicatedHunter

Re: OMGWTFBBQ, another Concept Pitch!: Naruto-Sensei

Unread postby spudman » December 21st, 2009, 1:57 am

I've been doing some editing this morning and adding some more action, and more clear triggers as to WHY he is thinking about this. He did not run in to find his Dad murdered, either, which is another reason he's far less traumatized, which will be made clearer later on. He didn't have the 72 hours of mind-breaking to twist him into a hateful little prick either. Likewise, he has not yet activated his sharingan.
When put like that, Sasuke betraying the village seems a lot less likely. But who knows down the road...something could happen to increase the tension between him and Itachi, or him and Naruto. Mikoto herself, what her actions are and what happens to her throughout the rest of the story (assuming she survives the massacre), may be the deciding factor.
User avatar
spudman
 
Posts: 1532
Joined: January 20th, 2011, 5:14 pm

Re: OMGWTFBBQ, another Concept Pitch!: Naruto-Sensei

Unread postby Nasdaq » December 21st, 2009, 2:02 am

Yes, she survived. That little bit is post massacre and she's alive. Also, yes, she is far less likely, which is why the total story changes even more. Let's just say that I've got some fun twists and other divergence points that will come up and tie into what Itachi knows about Akatsuki, Madara, and the other such things.

Also, a bit more I wrote. Just two more final things. Might expand the Shikamaru thing a bit too.
Spoiler: show
It was early morning, just after eight AM. Hinata sat in silence, having woken up a few minutes before but feeling an almost crippling sense of dread wash over her. Today was the day she was placed on a new genin team and would be sent out on various missions for the good of the village. It was the first day of the rest of her life, a day that would define her for the rest of her life, she knew. Of course, she should have had her life already figured out and set up for her. She was the eldest child of the Hyuuga clan head, a fact that was supposed to have destined her as the clan heir. But she was weak, shy, ineffective, and untalented. She knew this because he father had told her so, in no uncertain terms.

She needed to get out of bed and get ready. No need to cause any more unwanted attention on her due to oversleeping, despite the dread she felt. She wished she could fade away, some times. It was why she tried to be so unassuming. There was no privacy in the house of Hyuuga, no place she could go to hide. She was always being watched. It was not modesty that dictated her wardrobe, but rather the wish to draw as little attention as possible. Lucky for her, that had worked fairly well at the academy. She hoped just to get by, because she knew she wasn’t going to be the top of the class. How could she? As her father always said, she had no drive and no natural talent.

There was no expectation of acceptance even after she’d been granted her hitae-ite. Her father would do that only if she was top of the class, she knew, and she also knew she could not reach that. There was no way for a weak person like her to do that. So instead she just got by as much as she could. Middle of the road so she wouldn’t call more attention to herself; if she was near the top she’d be noticed for not being good enough to be all the way, and god forbid she was at the bottom. The choice was instead to fade into the background, into a list of names where she wouldn’t be noticed. It was a sound plan, even if she really didn’t think of it in that way.

The young girl slipped out of bed softly and made her way to her closet. She had formal robes and the like, but she wore a simple black outfit and that beige jacket. Simple, unassuming, and it kept eyes off her most of the time. It was simple and unnoteworthy, just like her. Her room was the same way; the Hyuuga were not particularly ostentatious people. They were supposed to enjoy simple beauty and elegance that could be found in subtle things. It was another thing Hinata was no good at. She liked colors, and vibrance, like the colorful flowers her mother used to grow. Hinata pressed flowers, when she could, and hung them. It was a small rebellion against her father and the clan, even if she did not consciously see it as that.

She just liked the flowers.

Hinata dressed quickly, pulling on the jacket last and slipping from her room in silence. She had two hours before she needed to head to the academy for her team placement. That was not something she was particularly looking forward to. They would notice her, then. She’d have more people to see how weak she was, and how much she did not live up to her family name. There would be no escaping the scrutiny when she was placed on a team that small, with a jounin teacher who would watch her every move. It made her nervous just thinking about it.

Hinata left for the family rock garden. It was not what she might have chosen, but she loved it never the less. It had been her favorite place, growing up. After her mother passed way, Hiashi had slowly changed it into its current form. But before, it had been filled with life and color. Just like her mother.

She missed her mother dearly.

Hinata shook those thoughts from her head. If she could not be good, the least she could do was not be a weepy and emotional little girl. She owed that to her family, at least. Her father had never said anything about that. He led by example in that way, remaining stoic and collected at all times. She should be more like him, and in that way she would. It was a small thing, barely enough to make up for her failings, but it was something still.

A soft sigh escaped her lips as she entered the garden. Even in it’s current state she found it soothing. She would spend a few minutes here to clear her mind for the day of head. It was certain that she would need it.

Some distance off, in his own quarters, her father watched his daughter with the seemingly perpetual frown he always wore. It was a mask, a stoic face he’d put on long ago. He was hard on his daughters, far too hard, he knew. He was cold inside, ever since She had passed on. He did not think of her name anymore, nor her face. To remember only made the pain come back. Each time he saw Hinata, he saw a little bit of Her in the young girl. He pushed her hard to try and change that, to stamp out that little bit. It was a horrible thing to do and he knew he was a poor father for finding it so easy.

He loved his daughters, just as he had loved their mother. But when She had gone away, so had that warmth and vibrance, and to see it reflected in his daughter only made the hole in his heart ache once again. He told himself that they needed it, to have that weakness and sentimentality pushed out of them if they were to be good members of the Hyuuga house. He had grown weak and complacent and his constant pain was a reminder of that. That was what he told himself.

They needed it. It was for their own good, and the good of the clan. That was what he told himself, and that allowed him to continue. He, who prided himself on being able to read someone so well, to tell lies from truths in anyone, told him that. Thus, the one person whose lie he believed was his own.

Without a word he deactivated his byakugan and headed out of his room, robes flowing behind him. He had duties to attend to.

-

It was morning. Sort of. I mean, some people consider it still morning at ten AM, right? It IS AM, you know? That meant it’s morning, regardless of the fact that the sun was up in the sky and everyone else was bustling about in their daily lives. None of that mattered to Shikamaru Nara, who was still pleasantly sleeping. He didn’t get to sleep in very often, and he knew damn well he wouldn’t have much of a chance to do it afterwards either. He wasn’t going to ruin it by waking up early or something. He’d turned off his clock and alarm, he’d closed off his window blinds, and he’d locked his door too.

Waking up would be too troublesome. He only had to be at school just before lunch. No need to make a big fuss out of it.
"Sasuke was not really happy with his team. The shy Hyuuga, and the laziest person he'd ever known where not people he'd have picked. And he never expected how a blue-eyed, blond-haired, and newly minted jounin would transform them all into a true team." - Naruto-sensei, currently in Arc 2: The Chuunin Exams
User avatar
Nasdaq
 
Posts: 388
Joined: January 20th, 2011, 5:14 pm
AOL: VindicatedHunter

Re: OMGWTFBBQ, another Concept Pitch!: Naruto-Sensei

Unread postby spudman » January 13th, 2010, 1:13 am

You mentioned Naruto knew Kakashi growing up, but what about Jiraiya? With the super-pervert's influence, Naruto could likely be a shameless flirt. Imagine if he applies that to Sasuke and/or Shikamaru's mom...
User avatar
spudman
 
Posts: 1532
Joined: January 20th, 2011, 5:14 pm

Re: OMGWTFBBQ, another Concept Pitch!: Naruto-Sensei

Unread postby Nasdaq » January 13th, 2010, 12:13 pm

I haven't entirely decided yet, but it's certainly a gold mind for humor. I'm thinking of making him more of a 'gentleman flirt,' in a way. Very charming. Less Jiraiya and more Miroku, if you ever saw Inuyasha, as much as I loathe to reference it, it still fits. But, he knew Jiraiya for longer, but not his entire life. Jiraiya spent many years in the field, keeping Naruto safe from enemies, as he did not have the protection of anonymity from his father. But, when he got older, Jiraiya did come back and train him so he could take care of himself, as it would be.
"Sasuke was not really happy with his team. The shy Hyuuga, and the laziest person he'd ever known where not people he'd have picked. And he never expected how a blue-eyed, blond-haired, and newly minted jounin would transform them all into a true team." - Naruto-sensei, currently in Arc 2: The Chuunin Exams
User avatar
Nasdaq
 
Posts: 388
Joined: January 20th, 2011, 5:14 pm
AOL: VindicatedHunter

Re: OMGWTFBBQ, another Concept Pitch!: Naruto-Sensei

Unread postby spudman » January 22nd, 2010, 9:30 pm

Hm, if Danzo is in Akatsuki, I wonder how Nagato and Konan feel about that.
User avatar
spudman
 
Posts: 1532
Joined: January 20th, 2011, 5:14 pm


Return to “%s” Writer Workshop

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users