Team 8 - Chapter 22 Discussion Thread

[Kitty-Chan]

If you haven't got much left, how are you lucid enough to post in this threads?

...And did we derail this thing again? Man, there aren't much people discussing things about the new chapter, are there?

Dude, losing your sanity doesn't mean you can no longer sound lucid. Look at this forum!

[Dechstreme]

You mean we are insane?

[Kitty-Chan]

You're just now figuring this out?

[Wraith5]

You're just now figuring this out?

DAMMIT! Someone beat me to it...
As far as insanity goes, I've seen many sources (usually characters portrayed as literally insane) who just say you see reality for what it really is (or something like that). I've also seen a demotivational pic captioned "Schizophrenia. In a battle of wits, I dual wield." (I realize that's a bit different from insanity, but it still applies.)

[Dechstreme]

This all brings to mind a quote from The Tick. Anyone want to hear it?

[jgkitarel]

Sure, go ahead. I think I know the one you're mentioning. And it makes me realize that I'm getting older.

[Dechstreme]

"Sanity is a one-trick pony: Rational Thinking. But when you're good and crazy, the sky's the limit!"
-The Tick

[doc.exe]

I was under the impression that you had to leave most of your sanity on the door to post here.

Started re-reading the fanfic since the beginning although I have not finished the first chapter yet. But I have to ask: Is the trademark snark™ the gag you were alluding in your author notes?
 

[Dechstreme]

There is a door?

[jgkitarel]

It's a revolving one, be sure not to slam it when coming in or out.

[WarriorDrgnMage]

It's a revolving one, be sure not to slam it when coming in or out.

I'm sure I could figure out a way to slam it if givien enough time

[Wraith5]

I'm sure I could figure out a way to slam it if givien enough time

That's easy. Stick something through the entrance/exit so it sticks out, then spin it HARD. Seriously. It's easy.

[viridian]

The long-planned gag was Iruka's Secret.

[Wraith5]

The long-planned gag was Iruka's Secret.

I was wrong? Darn... oh well. (Must... refrain... from screaming... for... next... chapter... < only half kidding there, at best.)

[jgkitarel]

I'm sure I could figure out a way to slam it if givien enough time

That's easy. Stick something through the entrance/exit so it sticks out, then spin it HARD. Seriously. It's easy.

Sorry, but forum policy means that the entryway must be clear of all obstacles beforehand, and people enter or leave one at a time, or the door won't work. We established that to keep the Ree from getting out on their C'thullu mounts. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go to the spare Shinji locker and grab a few.

*hears something in the vents*

Hmm, gonna have to set more cloned after this.

[Tempest Kitsune]

Okay gents, please take it to the thread in General Discussion if you're not going to actually discuss the fic here please.

[jgkitarel]

Sorry, got a little carried away there.

[macdjord]

When you mention that, I'm sort of worried that Team 8 is going to get a Trope Overload again. I really don't want to see that happen again. Same happened for People Lie, Chunin Exam Day, and There and Back Again. It's really annoying when popular fics get that surge of people trying to claw up every trope and exaggerate as much as they can.

Okay, I've read People Lie and Chunin Exam day, but I've never heard of There and Back Again*. Link?
* Well, I've read The Hobbit, A.K.A. There and Back Again, but no fanfic of that name.

I thought it was foreshadowed pretty blatantly beforehand that Mattai was a bastard Hyuuga & the clan had him offed.

Not really. We knew that he was related to the Hyuuga, and it was obvious that Hiashi had him killed (or at least that Kurenai thought so - and wouldn't that be a twist if she was wrong all along?). But there was never much to go on about why - my working theory was that he was a Branch Member who acted too un-Hyuuga-like in public; Kurenai describes him early on as 'the only member of that family not to act stuck-up'.

[Dechstreme]

I think it was mentioned in another thread that Mattai was never a Hyuuga, to be honest. Still, the chapters left us with a lot of questions. We know what Kurenai suspects now, and we know how her team was killed off... but we still don't know if it was Hiashi using the resources available to him through his co-conspirators in the village just to kill Mattai and keep the Byakugan from spreading outside the clan, or if there was something more to Mattai's death aside from pure spite being the cause.

We also still don't know for certain what the conspiracy in the village is after, if there are any clear links with Akatsuki, if it's because of Akatsuki that it exists, or even their long term goals. We just know that the jerks are there, they are nasty, and they are hard to get rid of.

[Kitty-Chan]

I thought it was foreshadowed pretty blatantly beforehand that Mattai was a bastard Hyuuga & the clan had him offed.

Not really. We knew that he was related to the Hyuuga, and it was obvious that Hiashi had him killed (or at least that Kurenai thought so - and wouldn't that be a twist if she was wrong all along?). But there was never much to go on about why - my working theory was that he was a Branch Member who acted too un-Hyuuga-like in public; Kurenai describes him early on as 'the only member of that family not to act stuck-up'.

She commented at one point how tan his skin was compared to the rest of the clan, if I remember right. That gave it away for me.

[FFBandit]

Once again an excellent chapter from our author who can make grown men skip with joy when a new post is up.
I have to say that you made a chapter that from any other writer would just be annoying filler and gave us something thought provoking and progressed the entire plot in more ways than we mere mortals can grasp.

I have just had one horrible thought for where the Diversion may have occurred; not long before the death of mattai we have the Hyuga kidnapping incident and Hiashi gives up his twin brothers life to cloud. But given that the Hyuga clan head in this tale does not match cannon we get...
An evil Twin!
Hizashi manages to over power his brother sends his body off and secretly takes over as head of the family. And running with the evil twin idea we could even postulate the source of some certain wild oats and extra-familial genetic traits.
Not that I think my crazy brain is any where near the mark for such a well constructed story but its just stuck up there.

[jgkitarel]

Considering that he was born outside the clan and is not a stranger to outside labor, the tanned skin would make some sense.

[Wraith5]

Considering that he was born outside the clan and is not a stranger to outside labor, the tanned skin would make some sense.

Crud. Someone beat me to it. Thought of that earlier, never got around to posting. *facepalm*
Also, I just remembered. During the Search for Tsunade sequence, it was mentioned that Hinata could've passed for a farmer's daughter... foreshadowing (uhh... "back"shadowing ...?) maybe?
In any event, I'm sticking with my theory that there was a Hyuuga who never manifested the Byakugan, got kicked out of the clan, then one of his/her descendants (Mattai) manifested it.

[Dechstreme]

The whole farmer's daughter thing had nothing to do with hinting anything regarding Mattai. The comment was in regards to Hinata's physique rather than her skin color like with Mattai. They are two unrelated things, really.

[Wraith5]

I know, but I've seen some VERY obscure foreshadowing in some of my favorite fics. Plus, this is all speculation already, right?