End of One Manga

[serbii]

Give me back my shoes Spence!

But where am I going to eat my cereal? D=

On second though keep the shoes, hand over the cereal.

[gman391]

Why do I keep being the straight man where ever I go? I know the world doesn't make sense but I can't help myself.

Anyways no cereal for you Serbii instead have this healthy bowl of fruit.

[ShonenHero]

Why do I keep being the straight man where ever I go? I know the world doesn't make sense but I can't help myself.

Anyways no cereal for you Serbii instead have this healthy bowl of fruit.

Why not meet in the middle? Fruitloops covers both things, right?

[serbii]

Mmmmm sugar in milk fruitloops.

What kinds of fruits gman, the goodness of a fruit bowl is highly dependant on the kinds of fruits. The awesomeness of a bowl of cherries, blueberries, watermelon, plums, grapes and generally everything else I can only get in summer is about 1000x greater than a bowl of sour green apples and tinned pineapple.

[gman391]

All kinds Serbii I would never make a you choose what kind of fruit to eat. I'd stay away from the crab apples myself.

[unknown6959]

I know it's late to the discussion but I would like to point out that not everyone can find a place to buy them. In the city I live in Ireland there is only two stores that stock manga and they only stock volumes of the extremely popular manga, worse they don't stay up to date with the english translation. I would happily pay a subscription to a site in order to pay to read them as I read a large variety of manga.

[Satori]

That one you mention is more an issue of the censors than of the translators (I'm not saying there are not translations that are very bad, but there are also some that are very good). Now that you mentioned it, I have always find that the way censure is applied, not only to anime and manga, but in general, is... well, very inconsistent to point of silliness.

The stupidity of the censors is only the most egregious of the problems. The majority of official translations are made of fail. If they can't be arsed to even try to make a quality product, why the heck should I make any effort to compensate them for it?

I bought a bunch of used Evangelion manga at 1 USD a pop, because that's a fair price for the quality I'm getting. Heck, 3-4, maybe even 5-6 USD is good by me for something new and quality. But the 10+ USD/volume they want to charge me is blatant robbery. It's notably more than what the same volume goes for in Japan, and the translation is in NO way worth that extra cost. If anything, I'd expect a discount for the reduction in product quality in the translated version.

[Wittgen]

Poor translations shouldn't be supported, yes, but that's not what you're paying for. You're paying for all the extra layers of business involved in reading that manga in America. It has to be licensed and localized and distributed in America, and all of that costs money. Manga is never going to cost 4.50/volume in America like it does in Japan. I totally agree that 12 bucks is stupid as hell, though. I blame American comics for killing the American comic book market years ago.

[ewuvi]

Well, this is as good of a time for me to stop reading comics as any, what with FMA done. Haha, watch my productiveness skyrocket.

[MEKristian]

I blame American comics for killing the American comic book market years ago.

Ha HA! Clone Saga!

...Had to be done...

[Darkandus]

It's probably the illness and the fact that it's almost five in the morning talking. But this is really annoying. Oh well, guess I'll never finish Hajime no Ippo then...



*Sigh*

Screw it, I'll just look for another source.

[Satori]

Poor translations shouldn't be supported, yes, but that's not what you're paying for. You're paying for all the extra layers of business involved in reading that manga in America. It has to be licensed and localized and distributed in America, and all of that costs money. Manga is never going to cost 4.50/volume in America like it does in Japan. I totally agree that 12 bucks is stupid as hell, though. I blame American comics for killing the American comic book market years ago.

eh, well, if that holds true, I'll never buy manga. I'm not going to pay more than twice as much for an inferior product.

There are a few amercan comics which are okay. I still follow Fables. And runaways volume 1 was fantastic even if it did go downhill rapidly after.

[doc.exe]

I think Wittgen means that comics in general tend to be too expensive nowadays, because the idiots running the major American comic companies like Marvel bankrupted the market with poor managing and marketing decisions some years ago (and yes, it didn't help that many of the stories were awful). That event seriously diminished the demand, thus leading to the ridiculous prices we pay today not only in the USA.

In my country, a Marvel comicbook ranges between 20 and 30 pesos (more or less 1.5/2.5 dollars given the current exchange rate). That is too much, considering the minimum wage here is about 4 dollars per day. Curiosly, manga is somewhat cheaper when you take into account the volumes have like 200 pages or more. Last time I checked, the prices ranged between 60-120 pesos (4.6-9.2 dollars approx.)

And well, I can't really speak about the English translations, but in Mexico the translations tend to be, if not good, at least decent. I have cringed at some mistakes I have seen in a pair of volumes, but nothing that have made me throw a book in disgust. And considering Japanese is not exactly an easy language to translate, that is an accomplishment.

[Minion]

That is all, folks. The beast has died. Strolling down the manga list all you'll see is suspended. That could mean they might make a comeback, but I'm not getting my hopes up. So did you all get your fill in the final hours?

[doc.exe]

Not really. I was too busy yesterday. I suppose I will have to look for some other place to at least catch up with One Piece and Kenichi. And maybe read Mahou Sensei Negima and Gintama if I have the chance.

Anyway, ashes to the ashes, dust to dust. Rest in peace, One Manga

[MrRigger2]

Yeah, I'll have to find someplace else to read Negima, as Manga Stream doesn't run it. I'm current, but that doesn't necessarily mean much if I don't know of anywhere else that runs it.

MrRigger

[MEKristian]

Yeah, I'll have to find someplace else to read Negima, as Manga Stream doesn't run it. I'm current, but that doesn't necessarily mean much if I don't know of anywhere else that runs it.

MrRigger

I know where.

...It's Hayate the Combat Butler that I can't find anywhere.

[Disconnected]

Mahou Sensei Negima is available on Manga Fox, and they used to have Hayate the Combat Butler, but it is no longer available due to it being licensed.

[serbii]

*checks personal source*
Still good.
Except I can't get 07Ghost there and When They Cry is so poorly organised I just gave up and subscribed to the scanlator's RSS feed, also Pokemon Special isn't up to date there... actually my source is pretty crap isn't it?
And it's nor read OL.

[Minion]

I just thought of something else about the whole not supporting manga thing. I've bought a lot of anime DVDs which were based off manga, such as a couple of seasons of DBZ, a few Yuyu Hakusho, and Afro Samurai. Does my buying these items in any way help the manga industry?